Telepathy and Telekinesis

[Flisch]

Telepathy should be restricted to communication between members of the same species. Different species are way too different on a biological level that it's next to impossible that their brainwaves would somehow synch and be able to share their thoughts. Same goes for pretty much anything, be it gametes or blood transfusion.

I would say, when in doubt, just say it#s not possible. I mean, after all this is a sci-fi RP. We ARE able to invent the technology if we need a certain trait. So even while cross-species telepathy is biologically impossible, you could still invent a device that processes and converts brainwaves of pne species into brainwaves of a different species. It's realyl not that big of a deal.

Same goes for telikinesis. Unless you have a pretty damn good argument as to why it would be possible for a creature to be able to evolve such a trait, just go with "zero-point-energy-field-manipulator-devices" which basically have the same effect.

[Razonatair]

And this is sci-fi with cells that communicate quantumly with each other.

[DarthGrievi]

Apr 29, 2010 23:44:54 GMT Clarke said:

Just wanted to point out that natural telepaths won't arise in a single generation out of member-species that are non-telepathic. Any telepathy would have to be performed by built-in computer chips, which should be common among races anyway.

What could happen, though, is that it is a rare mutation, but not a new one, like a genetic disease. It has the potential to be passed down, and may in fact be a dominant trait, but some races might decide to kill any member who does possess odd powers, limiting their numbers further. [/ramble]

But, yeah, no telepathy out of nowhere without genetic engineering to allow them to pick up on brainwaves. And even then, they'd seriously have to know what they were doing, no random blind guessing unless they already have an electromagnetic sensitivity or something similar.

[crazen]

I basically agree with Raz

[Clarke]

Apr 29, 2010 23:50:28 GMT DarthGrievi said:

What could happen, though, is that it is a rare mutation, but not a new one, like a genetic disease. It has the potential to be passed down, and may in fact be a dominant trait, but some races might decide to kill any member who does possess odd powers, limiting their numbers further. [/ramble

What I'm saying is that a single mutation(or, for that matter, a couple thousand) couldn't produce something as complex as telepathy would be. It takes hundreds of generations for relatively basic stuff like appossable thumbs and bipedalism, having a baby being born telepathic is a one in a trillion chance.

[Razonatair]

We're rationalizing this too much.

[crazen]

having a baby being born telepathic is a one in a trillion chance

But what if the population is in the Quadrillions? If thats the statistic, their would be a lot of telepaths. It shouldn't occur unless their is extensive evolution (or genetic/technological enhancements).

Basically, if your not meant to do it, you don't.

[Razonatair]

Apr 26, 2010 2:27:06 GMT Razonatair said:

I think it's best I don't specifically explain it. It's one of those "well they just do" kind of things.

As I said before, it's best if we just leave the issue of how be, and simply shift to something else. This isn't a discussion about the how, after all.

[Clarke]

Apr 30, 2010 0:11:42 GMT Razonatair said:

We're rationalizing this too much.

No, it just doesn't make sense to say "they're born telepathic", which is impossible, when it could be explained without sacrificing credibility that they have implants, which they probably would have anyway.

[Razonatair]

The god damn Devex are damn near impossible. There are many races on these boards that are damn near if not impossible, I just can't recall them. Again, we need to stop rationalizing this as to how it works, and accept that it just does, and it will forever be a mysterious thing.

[Clarke]

What's impossible about the Devex?

[Razonatair]

"are a race of polymorphous trans-biological beings originating from their extensively cyber-formed home planet" Doesn't exactly make a lot our sense in our universe.

[Clarke]

What I picked up was that they're former biological organisms that now inhabit non-biological bodies, which isn't really that big of a stretch, in my opinion anyway.

[Razonatair]

My statement stands.

We're here to discuss this;
Gec- "So there may be an issue in the future about such abilities in creatures. Some people may explain it differently than others, some make it too powerful or godmoddish. So I thought we could set rules on how it is used. When we look at fictions such as Star Wars and the Force, it was a universal ability that various race shared. Not one race was limited or over-gifted with that ability. On top of that, not very many individuals can master all aspects of it, or control everything.

Using that same model, I believe that such abilities are acceptable as long as:

-An entire race cannot all share this power.
-It's use is limited to certain aspects, either clairvoyance or bending of matter. Not both at the same time
-Scant number of individuals with such powers may only exist.

This isn't an open invitation for everyone to say how many individuals in their race have such abilities. That figure should remain unknown. Every race is naturally bound to have them. You can, however, give your RP characters that ability. Using it will depend much on how other members can depend on you to use it responsibly in an RP setting."

We are not here to discuss how such abilities work. If we're going to discuss how such abilities work, I want every last one of you to give a perfect explanation of how to circumvent the light barrier without free energy devices.

[Clarke]

And my point is that "telepathy" can be performed without it being mystical, but having the same effect that it would have if it was.